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	<title>Comments on: Mr Darcy&#8217;s Proposal; What did he actually say to Elizabeth?</title>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 15:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kind of agree with an earlier post that suggests people probably prefer the one they saw first. I love the proposal scene in the 2005 version. Every time I watch it, I have to DVR back through it again and again when I get to that part. I think the passion that Darcy feels is so evident especially after she tells him he&#039;s the &quot;last man in the world I could ever be prevailed upon to marry&quot; and they are silently watching one another, he sways toward her while looking at her lips. Even after she&#039;s turned him down so intensely, you can tell he wants to take her in his arms and kiss her. VERY HOT!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of agree with an earlier post that suggests people probably prefer the one they saw first. I love the proposal scene in the 2005 version. Every time I watch it, I have to DVR back through it again and again when I get to that part. I think the passion that Darcy feels is so evident especially after she tells him he&#8217;s the &#8220;last man in the world I could ever be prevailed upon to marry&#8221; and they are silently watching one another, he sways toward her while looking at her lips. Even after she&#8217;s turned him down so intensely, you can tell he wants to take her in his arms and kiss her. VERY HOT!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea Fernández</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea Fernández</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ilove Mathew Mc Fayden. He´s eyes transmitted passion &amp; insecurity as well. He´s my dreamed Darcy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ilove Mathew Mc Fayden. He´s eyes transmitted passion &amp; insecurity as well. He´s my dreamed Darcy</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 09:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer the 2005 script nonetheless. I think the proposal in 2005 film are actually the one that give me the impression of Mr. Darcy&#039;s proposal the most. It doesn&#039;t seems too much like he&#039;s asking her whether she wants to marry him or not, it&#039;s more like he is expecting her to marry him as he blames her for being the reason to cause him pain. And Matthew MacFadyen had brought Mr. Darcy&#039;s character to life. Even in the film his facial expression are the same most of the time, his eyes bring all the emotions out for us to see. When I go back and watch the scene from different version of Pride and Prejudice and I notice that in 2005 film Mr. Darcy has this compose expression on his face, his words are accusing of Elizabeth for causing him to suffer. But when he said that he love her, his expression changed into a hopeless kind of way, like he doesn&#039;t know what else to do to stop his suffering, except to ask for her to marry him. I can see the contrast of when he said he love her and he was blaming her. So, I think it&#039;s the best. However, in other version like in the 1995 film. I wasn&#039;t convinced that Mr. Darcy actually love Elizabeth. So, yeah, I like the 2005 more. It&#039;s just an opinion. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer the 2005 script nonetheless. I think the proposal in 2005 film are actually the one that give me the impression of Mr. Darcy&#8217;s proposal the most. It doesn&#8217;t seems too much like he&#8217;s asking her whether she wants to marry him or not, it&#8217;s more like he is expecting her to marry him as he blames her for being the reason to cause him pain. And Matthew MacFadyen had brought Mr. Darcy&#8217;s character to life. Even in the film his facial expression are the same most of the time, his eyes bring all the emotions out for us to see. When I go back and watch the scene from different version of Pride and Prejudice and I notice that in 2005 film Mr. Darcy has this compose expression on his face, his words are accusing of Elizabeth for causing him to suffer. But when he said that he love her, his expression changed into a hopeless kind of way, like he doesn&#8217;t know what else to do to stop his suffering, except to ask for her to marry him. I can see the contrast of when he said he love her and he was blaming her. So, I think it&#8217;s the best. However, in other version like in the 1995 film. I wasn&#8217;t convinced that Mr. Darcy actually love Elizabeth. So, yeah, I like the 2005 more. It&#8217;s just an opinion. <img src='http://www.myprideandprejudice.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Terry Sigrist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Sigrist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 00:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve said it before, Pride &amp; Prejudice is just a wonderful story, no matter what Darcy or Lizzie you prefer, they all are great and bring Jane Austen&#039;s characters to life. If you are truly a fan of P&amp;P give a glance at the BBC versions of Sense &amp; Sensibility, Emma, Mansfield Park, Persuasion and Northanger Abbey. They are wonderful adaptations of Austen&#039;s books and you will quickly become a fan for life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve said it before, Pride &amp; Prejudice is just a wonderful story, no matter what Darcy or Lizzie you prefer, they all are great and bring Jane Austen&#8217;s characters to life. If you are truly a fan of P&amp;P give a glance at the BBC versions of Sense &amp; Sensibility, Emma, Mansfield Park, Persuasion and Northanger Abbey. They are wonderful adaptations of Austen&#8217;s books and you will quickly become a fan for life!</p>
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		<title>By: Eliza'sFriend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eliza'sFriend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 14:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Methinks Greer Garson was the best Lizzy, especially if she had been around in the 80s for the BBC version. That would have ROCKED!!! Colin Firth epitomised gentility to the T, I think. MacFadyen was all right but I thought he was too &quot;2005&quot; - i.e. very cutesy and filmy - unlike Firth. And while I can stand K. Knightley in some other works, she MUST NOT do period films especially if they are based on literary works. She is too skinny, too scrawny, overdoes her &quot;pout&quot; (eeuuwww) and does not act like a lady back-in-the-day would (I refer to acting a role in the movie, as opposed to behaving badly). She is no &quot;old english&quot; rose, when the women were expected to be &quot;light and pleasing&quot; but have womanly curves without too many bones protruding - but she is certainly sufficient for these modern times. Please understand I do not mean to offend - these are just my views on the matter. It is tough to compare movies/ book adaptations with one&#039;s own imaginations.
I think the 2005 version was way too modern for my liking and apart from MM, Rosamund Pike and the person who played Caroline Bingley, I thought everyone else was ill-suited to the roles, or were miscast. 2005&#039;s Bingley is HORROR!
The proposal? 1980 and 1995 were best! 2005 was very romantic but it killed my expectations of poetry, affection, ego, pride, confusion, attraction and helplessness all combined together, that I was waiting for. 1940 is the comedy version of the romantic book, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Methinks Greer Garson was the best Lizzy, especially if she had been around in the 80s for the BBC version. That would have ROCKED!!! Colin Firth epitomised gentility to the T, I think. MacFadyen was all right but I thought he was too &#8220;2005&#8243; &#8211; i.e. very cutesy and filmy &#8211; unlike Firth. And while I can stand K. Knightley in some other works, she MUST NOT do period films especially if they are based on literary works. She is too skinny, too scrawny, overdoes her &#8220;pout&#8221; (eeuuwww) and does not act like a lady back-in-the-day would (I refer to acting a role in the movie, as opposed to behaving badly). She is no &#8220;old english&#8221; rose, when the women were expected to be &#8220;light and pleasing&#8221; but have womanly curves without too many bones protruding &#8211; but she is certainly sufficient for these modern times. Please understand I do not mean to offend &#8211; these are just my views on the matter. It is tough to compare movies/ book adaptations with one&#8217;s own imaginations.<br />
I think the 2005 version was way too modern for my liking and apart from MM, Rosamund Pike and the person who played Caroline Bingley, I thought everyone else was ill-suited to the roles, or were miscast. 2005&#8217;s Bingley is HORROR!<br />
The proposal? 1980 and 1995 were best! 2005 was very romantic but it killed my expectations of poetry, affection, ego, pride, confusion, attraction and helplessness all combined together, that I was waiting for. 1940 is the comedy version of the romantic book, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin Pittman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caitlin Pittman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 04:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It absolutely between Olivier and MacFadyen! The &#039;80 and &#039;95 versions are really good as a pure literature which is why it would not be obvious that the speech is not in the book. However, I think Deborah Maggoch reeeeeally conquers the moment and the spirit of Mr. Darcy. At this point, Darcy is at his wits end and he&#039;s become restless, not being able to wait any longer to Lizzie he loves her. I think it&#039;s perfectly 17th century formal but at the same time it gives it a real world feel instead of the stuffiness that most adaptations give it. It&#039;s much more realistic than any of the others. I think the 1940&#039;s version is really close though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It absolutely between Olivier and MacFadyen! The &#8216;80 and &#8216;95 versions are really good as a pure literature which is why it would not be obvious that the speech is not in the book. However, I think Deborah Maggoch reeeeeally conquers the moment and the spirit of Mr. Darcy. At this point, Darcy is at his wits end and he&#8217;s become restless, not being able to wait any longer to Lizzie he loves her. I think it&#8217;s perfectly 17th century formal but at the same time it gives it a real world feel instead of the stuffiness that most adaptations give it. It&#8217;s much more realistic than any of the others. I think the 1940&#8217;s version is really close though!</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 03:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the reasons I don&#039;t really like the movies too much, and I think you all are missing the point as to &quot;what exactly provoked Miss Elizabeth into replying with such incivility&quot;. The reason that the proposal is relayed in a second-hand paraphrasing is because Darcy&#039;s exact words don&#039;t matter. Elizabeth already resents Darcy, and regardless of what he actually said, she interprets it as him being haughty and insufferable. It&#039;s an element that you can&#039;t really convey in film, and its one that is extremely important to the overall reading of the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the reasons I don&#8217;t really like the movies too much, and I think you all are missing the point as to &#8220;what exactly provoked Miss Elizabeth into replying with such incivility&#8221;. The reason that the proposal is relayed in a second-hand paraphrasing is because Darcy&#8217;s exact words don&#8217;t matter. Elizabeth already resents Darcy, and regardless of what he actually said, she interprets it as him being haughty and insufferable. It&#8217;s an element that you can&#8217;t really convey in film, and its one that is extremely important to the overall reading of the book.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These were not the very traditional words to utter upon proposing (2005). No wonder why Elizabeth rejected Mr. Darcy at first. Not counting the fact that he allegedly separated Jane and Bingley. The 2005 adaptation was lightest and most engaging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These were not the very traditional words to utter upon proposing (2005). No wonder why Elizabeth rejected Mr. Darcy at first. Not counting the fact that he allegedly separated Jane and Bingley. The 2005 adaptation was lightest and most engaging.</p>
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		<title>By: Lizzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lizzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 10:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hola Ada, gracias por tu mensaje y por visitar a nuestro sitio. A mí también me gusta Matthew MacFadyen, pero prefiero Colin Firth.  

Por cierto, gracias for la oportunidad para practicar español. Este año me mudaré a España, asi que tengo que estudiar mucho...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hola Ada, gracias por tu mensaje y por visitar a nuestro sitio. A mí también me gusta Matthew MacFadyen, pero prefiero Colin Firth.  </p>
<p>Por cierto, gracias for la oportunidad para practicar español. Este año me mudaré a España, asi que tengo que estudiar mucho&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ada</title>
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		<dc:creator>ada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 03:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no english pero amo a matthew en la version del 2005</description>
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